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  Favorite Dead Performer

  by Yerusalyim in

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  equal time, and given the spirit of the season, who is your favorite dead performer?.

  mine, buddy holly, though he just kinda laid there and oozed all over the stage.. yerusalyim.

  "vanity!

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  Dan B

  Favorite dead comedian:

  Judge Rutherford.

  I still laugh after all these years!

  Dan
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  my service meeting part

  by nytelecom1 in

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  as there are many ex elder and ex ministerial servants on this board i would like suggestions for my part later "how would u respond--where do witnesses get their understanding of the bible".

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  flame on!!!!

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  Fred says:

  Through

  1. Jehovah

  2. Jesus

  3. Holy Spirit

  4. Body of Christ

  I think he really means:

  1) Watchtower

  2) Watchtower

  3) Watchtower

  4) Watchtower

  Dan
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  Favourite Live Performer:

  by Englishman in

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  i've seen loads of live acts, back when i was a "young person asking" i watched the crystals, heinz, johnny kid and the pirates, brenda lee, joe brown and others all on one show.

  so very innocent!.

  come my eventual departure from dubdom, i resolved to see all these bad people playing their music live.

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  Cygnus, (Cygnus X1??)

  I've seen RUSH live at least 12 times! Great shows, but you are right about lacking charisma. The problem is that the whole show is carefully timed. I had the privilege of being behind the stage at Maple Leaf Gardens a few years ago, and I saw the computers in action. If you see them 2 nights in a row you'll see 2 exact shows, including very brief comments occasionally. The quality of the music though is phenominal!

  BTW, there is a new CD from them coming out next year. Personally, I'm looking forward to it.

  Dan
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  Ignorant Elder Comments

  by El Kabong in

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  i don't know if this was discussed here before, but, what is the most ignorant comment you ever heard an elder say.

  i once had an elder say to me that my brother, who was at the time fighting in vietnam will be destroyed and killed over in 'nam because he did not accept "jehovah"!!!!

  i promptly told him to go "f" himself.

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  "But it really was quite sas when I glanced around and saw everybody buying into this crap."

  Meant to say quite sad; too early to spell correctly!!

  Dan
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  Ignorant Elder Comments

  by El Kabong in

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  i don't know if this was discussed here before, but, what is the most ignorant comment you ever heard an elder say.

  i once had an elder say to me that my brother, who was at the time fighting in vietnam will be destroyed and killed over in 'nam because he did not accept "jehovah"!!!!

  i promptly told him to go "f" himself.

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  Two stupid things come to mind:

  1) My wife (now ex) moved in with another man, and the elders told me that I didn't have "Scriptual grounds" for divorce because she said they were just roommates sharing the rent. The first meeting I had over this, they had read some rule about spending one night under the same roof with someone who is not your marriage mate is grounds for divorce. The next meeting about a week later, they had done a complete reversal and said that I had no proof she was committing adultery. I argued with the one moron for 45 minutes before he admitted that MAYBE they were wrong. (The heated arguement was right out in the hallway!!

  2) One elder said in his public talk that people who joke around alot and are not overly serious are like that because they masturbated and it stunted their ability to mature properly. I almost burst out laughing. But it really was quite sas when I glanced around and saw everybody buying into this crap.

  Dan
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  How long out? Why still here?

  by hillary_step in

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  some posters to this board, who perhaps are bored posters, have been out of the wts for a long while, some for decades.

  i think i understand why you still feel the need to meet here but just wished to hear from you personally.. how long have you been out?

  why do you still feel the need to discuss and involve yourselves with jw issues?

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  "P.S. There are some very bright and funny people here, so it is also entertaining. Conversly, there is Fredhall."

  I personally look forward to reading Fredhall's little incoherent one-liners. They make me laugh. Keep it up Fred!!

  Dan
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  YK on WT UN NGO STATUS

  by You Know in

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  several posters have asked what i thought of the.

  revelations about the wt being associated with the un.

  as an ngo so i thought i might make a brief comment on.

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  Why do most JW's equate the organization and Jehovah as the same thing?

  Because that's the way they want it!

  How many times have you heard someone say "you are turning your back on Jehovah" if you voice doubts about the organization? To most JW's they are one and the same. Sure, all, without exception, would not say this out loud, but it is the mindset created by the WT society. How many times at conventions when a new piece of literature is released, is the following announced "look what Jehovah has provided" or "we are feeding at the table of Jehovah"? Way back when, while still an MS, I voiced concern over this link being propogated by the Society. I felt it was a form of idolotry. Interestingly my hardcore loyal JW mother agreed that the Society was blurring the destinction between itself and God. For her though, it was okay. For me, it was a problem which bothered my conscience.

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  An agressive way to get the UN news out

  by scary_goat2000 in

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  its obvious at this point that the wts is covering this thing up.. here is an idea about how we might get the un scandal out to the masses.

  materials needed:.

  1) 3'x5' un flag ( http://www.flagline.com/countries.html).

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  Hi,

  In my humble opinion, I think this would be a mistake. This would be perceived as "persecution" by the JW's and would hamper any attempts to open their eyes through conventional means. If we (ex-jw's) are cast in the role of extremists, it will be very difficult to be taken seriously.

  Dan
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  Public Reproof will be made as scheduled.

  by badwillie in

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  i want to let all of you know that we have decided not to contest the elders decision to publicly reprove us tonight.

  after a lot of thought, we feel in the long run that by letting this go ahead it will only make the elders and the organization look guilty, not us.. the elders have basically ordered us not to talk about what our "crime" is with anyone.

  so we have decided that we will tell others what our crime was not, i.e.

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  MrMoe,

  It wasn't reproof for having the beard. And it wasn't attitude that was the issue. It was all about control. The absurdity of the whole situation was that I had been busted for going to a Casino with a single sister, and then going back to her place and doing the nasty. The fornication was completely minimized once they knew that it was not public knowledge. She was super hot, so I think they were kind of sympathetic. I'm sure they all would have done the same thing as me if they had been in my shoes. LOL The Casino was a big deal, they read some long boring article on greed. But it was the beard that consumed the majority of the time spent in front of the JC. The choice was clear: shave it off and I would not be DF'd, just reproved. Keep it, and I was history. They arranged another meeting a week later to see if I "obeyed".

  This is why I say it was about control.

  Dan
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  Public Reproof will be made as scheduled.

  by badwillie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i want to let all of you know that we have decided not to contest the elders decision to publicly reprove us tonight.

  after a lot of thought, we feel in the long run that by letting this go ahead it will only make the elders and the organization look guilty, not us.. the elders have basically ordered us not to talk about what our "crime" is with anyone.

  so we have decided that we will tell others what our crime was not, i.e.

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  Hi Badwillie,

  I was publicly reproved before. It's a little embarrassing, but not that big a deal. In fact, I was going to bolt for the door as soon as the meeting was over, but people stopped me, and actually congratulated me! I guess they were congratulating me for being repentant????? It was so bizarre, nothing like I expected. The funny part was,it all boiled down to shaving off my beard. Nevermind the drinking, gambling and hanky-panky that went on! It was all about my beard. Keep it-get DF'd, shave it- public reproof.
  For the sake of my parents, I shaved it. About 3 months later, I grew it back. There was nothing those morons could do. It was about that time I left for good.

  Dan